@Trogdor: Re deleting messages, thanks for trying. This helps. You don't have to be careful replying now, hitting the 'reply' button will place the comment behind this one. Your comments that are now nihil , sitting 'between' the 'main' sections may be very useful later. Requesting the other two posters to do the same.
Have been trying to get the layout better, that took more time then expected. Necessary though to have 'third-party' interested divert to this thread.
COMHEAR YARRA 3DX - NEWS & BACKGROUNDS
Sounds like a plan. Interesting 'update' today....suspected Comhear would demand the KS account, didn't quite expect it to happen in the way it did. Talk about shooting ones self in the foot...Edwin wrote:@Trogdor: I could still change the headers - reserved for future notifications - it offers us a chance in the future to add important news items or additional topics to the thread
At the end of the day this is about buying time....that's it. The update tells nothing that was not already known and is full of hubris, contempt, and merely reiterates obvious (to many) concepts.
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I've been reading through the COMHEAR filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission located here:
https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edga ... &count=100
If you want a deep dive into public info about COMHEAR finance, this is the place.
While looking through financial filings, I found a copy of the license agreement with UCSD here:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data ... ex1012.htm
As stated elsewhere, COMHEAR's exclusive license will expire in February 2019, but could be extended.
I would be surprised if COMHEAR are able to extend the exclusive license, because they do not seem to
be able to fill the market demand for the licensed product - at least not the Kickstarter product - and
this is a requirement in the Due Diligence section of the agreement. Under the previous management they
were able to get the ProAv product to market - and spent a lot of money to do it. The current CEO seems
to be claiming he needs to spend that development money again when he says that the Kickstarter funding
is not sufficient.
A good question is whether COMHEAR has regulatory approval to market the Yarra product in the US.
If they have that approval the license agreement says they have to market the product within 6 months
of receiving the approval.
section 3.3 (Due Diligence):
https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edga ... &count=100
If you want a deep dive into public info about COMHEAR finance, this is the place.
While looking through financial filings, I found a copy of the license agreement with UCSD here:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data ... ex1012.htm
As stated elsewhere, COMHEAR's exclusive license will expire in February 2019, but could be extended.
I would be surprised if COMHEAR are able to extend the exclusive license, because they do not seem to
be able to fill the market demand for the licensed product - at least not the Kickstarter product - and
this is a requirement in the Due Diligence section of the agreement. Under the previous management they
were able to get the ProAv product to market - and spent a lot of money to do it. The current CEO seems
to be claiming he needs to spend that development money again when he says that the Kickstarter funding
is not sufficient.
A good question is whether COMHEAR has regulatory approval to market the Yarra product in the US.
If they have that approval the license agreement says they have to market the product within 6 months
of receiving the approval.
section 3.3 (Due Diligence):
(a) LICENSEE shall, either directly or through its Affiliate(s) or Sublicensee(s):
(i) diligently proceed with the development, manufacture and sale of Licensed Products;
(ii) spend not less than One Million, Five Hundred Thousand dollars (US$1,500,000) for the development of Licensed Products during the first year of this Agreement. LICENSEE may, at its sole option, fund the research of any one of the Inventors and credit the amount of such funding actually paid to UCSD against its obligation under this paragraph;
(iii) Agree to spend the funds and resources necessary to successfully commercialize Licensed Products, currently estimated to be over Three Million dollars ($3,000,000). LICENSEE may, at its sole option, fund the research of any one of the Inventors and credit the amount of such funding actually paid to UCSD against its obligation under this paragraph;
(iv) identify and utilize adequate Contract Manufacturers and Distributors to meet the market demand following first sale of a Licensed Product and throughout the Term;
(v) create the first prototype of a Licensed Product by December 1, 2014;
(vi) introduce a Licensed Product for sale in the United States by June 30, 2015;
(vii) market Licensed Products in the United States within six (6) months of receiving regulatory approval to market such Licensed Products;
(viii) fill the market demand for Licensed Products following commencement of marketing at any time during the term of this Agreement; and
(ix) obtain all necessary governmental approvals for the manufacture, use and sale of Licensed Products.
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I'm not a lawyer, but my reading is that the agreement is granting exclusive rights for 5 years to useEdwin wrote:By the way, the bolded parts of the agreement is for the US. Crowdfunding comunity is GLOBAL. The license is not for global sales?
the US patented technology in the United States (sections 1.19 and 2.1). How this translates to covering
international sales is something for a real lawyer to discuss.
Will the projection of sales the COMHEAR has to provide UCSD during an extension of exclusivity include the 2700 Kickstarter/Undiegogo units because they are not yet considered 'sold'?1.19 "Territory" means the United States of America.
ARTICLE 2. GRANTS
2.1 License. Subject to the limitations set forth in this Agreement, UNIVERSITY hereby grants to LICENSEE, and LICENSEE hereby accepts, a license under Patent Rights to make, to use, to sell, to offer for sale, and to import Licensed Products and to practice Licensed Methods, in the Field within the Territory and during the Term.
The license granted herein is exclusive for Patent Rights in the Field of Use and in the Territory beginning on the Effective Date and ending on the fifth anniversary of the Effective Date. After the exclusive term, the license will be nonexclusive for the remainder of the Term, unless LICENSEE and UNIVERSITY mutually agree to extend to term of exclusivity. Prior to such a request for extending the term of exclusivity, LICENSEE shall provide relevant supporting information to UNIVERSITY consisting of at least projections of sales in Fields A-I.
UCSD tech transfer/licensing should be keenly interested in the status of the Kickstarter units and answers
to these questions:
-- Did COMHEAR already pay the fees to UCSD when they took the Kickstarter money because
that was considered a 'sale'?
-- For the purposes of the UCSD license agreement exactly when is a Kickstarter unit considered 'sold'?
Note there are two documents that are getting confidential treatment through March 31, 2019 and one of them is the UCSD license agreement (Exhibit 10.12** License Agreement dated February 1, 2014 between Registrant and the Regents of the University of California). Maybe there is another version or maybe the confidential treatment displays the fees paid to UCSD for the license?
confidential treatment:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data ... ename1.pdf
Based on representations by ComHear, Inc. that this information qualifies as confidential commercial
or financial information under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. 552(b)(4), the Division of
Corporation Finance has determined not to publicly disclose it. Accordingly, excluded information
from the following exhibits will not be released to the public for the time period specified:
Exhibit 10.12 through March 31, 2019
Exhibit 10.14 through March 31, 2019
GUIDELINE AND TEMPLATE TO FILE A COMPLAINT:
- for Attorney General, FTC and international authorities -
A Kickstarter backer has submitted a detailed complaint to the WA Attorney General concerning Comhear Inc.
He received notification:
a) His complaint had been processed by the Consumer Resource Center who sent it to Comhear for a response
b) Due to the nature of his concerns the Consumer Resource Center also sent his complaint to the FTC for review
You can read and download a copy of his complaint (including the addendum) in .PDF or .DOC format at the following link
https://volafile.org/r/re1xzg30
Note #1:
This link is good for only 2 days so if you’re interested in reading it and/or using it as a resource in preparing your own complaint please download it before it expires. Or click the 'Show' button at the bottom of this post)
If you plan to send your own complaints:
1) Read the complaint in it’s entirety and make any changes you feel are appropriate
2) Change the name of the Attorney General at the top of the complaint and all mentions of WA state to your own state/country
3) Be sure to edit item #4 in the Summary of Facts section to state your pledge amount and number of YARRA 3DX units pledged for
Considering there are 1848 YARRA 3DX backers, just imagine what an impact we would have if only a few percent of backers took the time to file his/her own complaints - just 5% of backers would result in almost 100 complaints! Not bad for a few minutes of your time!
.....click below to read the full contents
Note #2:
OR GO THE EASY WAY, INCL. INTERNATIONAL BACKERS:
The Attorney General complaints filed for WA will be applicable to all WA residents but not to any residents of other states or international backers. For this reason if you want to help from authorities you will need to file Attorney General complaints in your own state (for US backers) or equivalent complaints with consumer protection agencies in your country (for international backers). To make that process easy you can refer to the WA Attorney General complaint that has been filed as a resource as shown above. If you agree with the facts and allegations as stated in that complaint.
you can quickly copy and paste relevant sections which would allow you to submit your own complaint in a matter of minutes!!. To make it easy for you, your local authority to submit the complaint to can be found << HERE >>
It's your choice - sit idly by hoping Comhear honors it's contractual obligation to you or take action. However, keep in mind it is well known that "Hope is not a viable strategy".
- for Attorney General, FTC and international authorities -
A Kickstarter backer has submitted a detailed complaint to the WA Attorney General concerning Comhear Inc.
He received notification:
a) His complaint had been processed by the Consumer Resource Center who sent it to Comhear for a response
b) Due to the nature of his concerns the Consumer Resource Center also sent his complaint to the FTC for review
You can read and download a copy of his complaint (including the addendum) in .PDF or .DOC format at the following link
https://volafile.org/r/re1xzg30
Note #1:
This link is good for only 2 days so if you’re interested in reading it and/or using it as a resource in preparing your own complaint please download it before it expires. Or click the 'Show' button at the bottom of this post)
If you plan to send your own complaints:
1) Read the complaint in it’s entirety and make any changes you feel are appropriate
2) Change the name of the Attorney General at the top of the complaint and all mentions of WA state to your own state/country
3) Be sure to edit item #4 in the Summary of Facts section to state your pledge amount and number of YARRA 3DX units pledged for
Considering there are 1848 YARRA 3DX backers, just imagine what an impact we would have if only a few percent of backers took the time to file his/her own complaints - just 5% of backers would result in almost 100 complaints! Not bad for a few minutes of your time!
.....click below to read the full contents
OR GO THE EASY WAY, INCL. INTERNATIONAL BACKERS:
The Attorney General complaints filed for WA will be applicable to all WA residents but not to any residents of other states or international backers. For this reason if you want to help from authorities you will need to file Attorney General complaints in your own state (for US backers) or equivalent complaints with consumer protection agencies in your country (for international backers). To make that process easy you can refer to the WA Attorney General complaint that has been filed as a resource as shown above. If you agree with the facts and allegations as stated in that complaint.
you can quickly copy and paste relevant sections which would allow you to submit your own complaint in a matter of minutes!!. To make it easy for you, your local authority to submit the complaint to can be found << HERE >>
It's your choice - sit idly by hoping Comhear honors it's contractual obligation to you or take action. However, keep in mind it is well known that "Hope is not a viable strategy".